Brent is one-third of Q Branch where he writes Vesper. Blog: inessential.com.

Michael is a founder of Flexibits where he works on Fantastical. Twitter: @macguitar.

Identical Cousins 9: Working with Apple

Recorded 11 Jan. 2013.

You can download the m4a file.

Here are some things we mention in the show:

15 Jan 2013